[triumph_013]

I'm looking for a system that will keep me slammed. I'm tired of bouncing all over the road. Of the systems I've been looking into (Buddy Club, Ksport, BWR), I haven't been able to find a "height adjustment", or how low they will go. Anyone know of a good set? Trying to stay under 1500

Also, has anyone heard of Blackworks Racing? They have a set that looks pretty decent for 750. I'd like to hear some input on these

[Apex1972]

Function Form dude, if they are good enough for Big Mikes Lude they are good enough for anyone elses.just sayin 650 shipped.

[LudeLess]

Originally Posted by Apex1972

Function Form dude, if they are good enough for Big Mikes Lude they are good enough for anyone elses.just sayin 650 shipped.

That's a terrible way to base your decision. I know they're not "full coilovers" but I'd go with Neuspeed Koni's and GC coils for a more dialed in system.

[triumph_013]

Originally Posted by Apex1972

Function Form dude, if they are good enough for Big Mikes Lude they are good enough for anyone elses.just sayin 650 shipped.

I want low, slammed, hammered. Big Mike's car is not. Sure, he may not have it as low as it will go, but I posted my question to hear from others who actually have the systems

Originally Posted by LudeLess

That's a terrible way to base your decision. I know they're not "full coilovers" but I'd go with Neuspeed Koni's and GC coils for a more dialed in system.

I had GC, and I didn't like them. I couldn't go as low as I am now

[FaV605]

blackworks are garbage.

[triumph_013]

Originally Posted by FaV605

blackworks are garbage.

Thanks Frank. Do you have a suggestion? I'm kinda leaning toward the Buddy Clubs, the cheaper set instead of the full race set

[FaV605]

Originally Posted by triumph_013

Thanks Frank. Do you have a suggestion? I'm kinda leaning toward the Buddy Clubs, the cheaper set instead of the full race set

Im not familiar with Buddy Club coils for the Prelude, but I know the Civic SI guys love them. I've also heard good things about Megan Racing, K Sport, D2, TEIN obviously, and Function and Form.

[hseries]

Originally Posted by FaV605

blackworks are garbage.

Personal experience, Frank?
I'll share my piece till I get off from work...

[5SpdH22]

ffxbb6 has buddy clubs on his 5th gen as far as I know, you could talk to him.

I know what you're saying about ground controls. I'm not happy with how low mine go either, and OTS spring rates suck with bilsteins. They make shorter springs for them that I might check out, but I probably need shorter shocks first.

[FaV605]

Originally Posted by hseries

Personal experience, Frank?
I'll share my piece till I get off from work...

Yes. Personal experience. I had them on my EF hatch. I hated them.

[Apex1972]

Originally Posted by LudeLess

That's a terrible way to base your decision. I know they're not "full coilovers" but I'd go with Neuspeed Koni's and GC coils for a more dialed in system.

and how did you base your decision?? oh I know,you just said what most others with Ludes say. do you have Koni/GCs?

[LudeLess]

Originally Posted by Apex1972

and how did you base your decision?? oh I know,you just said what most others with Ludes say. do you have Koni/GCs?

Saying something is good enough for you because it is good enough for someone else, in this case Big Mike, is asinine. You don't know what he uses his car for, how hard he drives it or why he chose them. I love Big Mike's lude, but I'm not going to look to it every time I want to add a new part or upgrade to my car. I'm going to do the research myself and find out what I want and what is going to be best for me. The problem with coilover kits like the function form is that it is x-way adjustable and adjusts the compression and rebound at the same time instead of individually. So no matter what setting you put the shock to you're never gonna have the 2 exactly where you want them. This is fine for a lot of people who don't care about this fact and many will find this fine because most of us DD our cars. I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem with a KSport/Tein/FF/Buddy Club etc. kit daily driving, but I would rather be able to get the rebound dialed in to where I want it instead of trying to fiddle with 32 combinations of rebound/compression. Sure you may be able to get 1 damping setting where you want it, but you could be sacrificing on the other, so you compromise and put it somewhere in the middle. You can also rebuild the Koni's for spring rates past ~550, shorten them if you wish and even add a compression valve. With the Koni/GC setup you can go further in terms of tuning and customization.

My suspension setup right now is shit, H&R lowering springs on stock shocks. Next month though you can be sure that I'll be picking up some SP3 Konis, GC springs and maybe even a sway bar. The OP said he wanted to be slammed, the Neuspeed Konis have 5 perche locations for more height adjustability. I'm not trying to offend anyone with a coilover kit by any means, I'm just stating what I think to be the best suspension setup for your money. If I'm wrong on anything feel free to correct me.

[FaV605]

Get a penske custom setup for $7000.

[Breaking Point]

When u used the gc what struts were u on if u get koni and putt. It. Tto thhe last bar down u ccan tuck the front two or more inchs on a 205 45 16 like past tire into rim and bback like alotttt more.like so low u can't functionally drive I'd. Know lol and if your get 450 front 500 rear itlll. Keep u planted and hook and still ridde comfy.

[triumph_013]

Originally Posted by Breaking Point

When u used the gc what struts were u on if u get koni and putt. It. Tto thhe last bar down u ccan tuck the front two or more inchs on a 205 45 16 like past tire into rim and bback like alotttt more.like so low u can't functionally drive I'd. Know lol and if your get 450 front 500 rear itlll. Keep u planted and hook and still ridde comfy.

KYB AGX...im trying to decide between buying the Konis and keeping my current coilovers (Matrix, 500 front 400 rear), or buying a full coilover system...if its not much more money to buy a great set of coilovers then thats probably what i will do

[hseries]

Originally Posted by FaV605

Yes. Personal experience. I had them on my EF hatch. I hated them.

Hate them, why? I'm not trying to start anything--this is for my own (and the OP's) personal research...I've researched the company and have my own take on who they are and whatnot, but people, for example, will get something really stiff, get jarred up, and say it sucked, you know? So, why'd you hate them? Comfort, performance, construction/quality, adjustment capabilities? Explain, if you will...

Originally Posted by LudeLess

Saying something is good enough for you because it is good enough for someone else, in this case Big Mike, is asinine. You don't know what he uses his car for, how hard he drives it or why he chose them.......

Good to see we still have a few big boys on the site that know how to step up and still make sense of themselves through their explanation.

Originally Posted by FaV605

Get a penske custom setup for $7000.

[FaV605]

Blackworks were cheaply made. No adjustments other than ride height. Harsh and bouncy out of the box and caused serious positive camber. How? I don't know.

For the extra $100-150 I'd go with megans or k sports.

[1funryd]

Originally Posted by FaV605

Get a penske custom setup for $7000.

What Frank said...LoL!!!

Seriously though, its all about what a consumer wants to pay, and what he/she will use the suspension for like: Daily, track, Racing...

Ksports are a good all around suspension in my opinion.

GC and Konis are good, but the problem with GC is that you will not get a perfect drop on all sides, you will tend to compress the spring tighter on a side to make the drop even.

A truecoilover system is perfect for daily or track. For a specific Race vehicle then spend the extra dough for a high end suspension.

Pm me and I can get you a Kontrol Pro system for a good price.

[Breaking Point]

Iff you opt to go w. Koni struts on ccurrent setup. I'd sugest swappn the froont springgs to back for better traction annd spend time customizing the konis on each corrner you'll. B happy!.and itlll save you mmoneyz

[triumph_013]

does anyone know of any ride hight numbers for any of the mentioned suspensions? or pics of slammed ludes with said suspensions?

[WashingtonBB2]

I'm surprised Sean 1funryd didn't answer the height adjustment for Ksports considering he is the Ksport man

[Breaking Point]

Originally Posted by triumph_013

does anyone know of any ride hight numbers for any of the mentioned suspensions? or pics of slammed ludes with said suspensions?

i can give some pics with my koni gc setup.i usualy ride lower than in the pics but i hadnt finished drop by this time. and where i am in the pic for total drop i could have gone another 1.5inch in the front and 2.5-3 in the back if not more...leme find a pic or two....

got alot of neg camber lol

heres a bad pic to kinda see how i had the rear mosta the time.


sorry for like whoring just wanted you to get a kinda idea on this those r 205/45/16 tires like i said i was usualy a tit lower but coulda gona down a lot more and it cornered amazingly handled all around like a dream,wasnt bouncy at all and ept me planted.450 front 500 rear gc on konis i spent a month fine adjusting each strut till it was perfect a lil ever day lol

[g-gameslude]

my vote is for a set of tein ha's. you can pick up a set for around $450. That is what I got mine for. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-9...Q5fAccessories

[triumph_013]

can someone clarify the different levels of Koni yellows for me? there are the sports with 3 perch adjustments, the SP3s with 5 perch adjustments (and more travel?), is there any more? isnt there a set with more aggressive valving or something?

[triumph_013]

ok, i think the best bang for my buck is getting the function and forms (type ones) or getting the SP3 konis and keeping my coilovers...what do you guys think would be better? i know i can go even lower than i am now with the konis, the f&fs im a little worried about...can someone with a 4th gen please chime in about the f&fs?